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The Pesty Moralist – The Prophet / Part 17 – Addendum

In Bible, Biblical Principles, Chrisitan Lifestyle, Christian, Christian Living, End Times, Fruits of the Holy Spirit, God, God's Voice, Godliness, Godly Counsel, Holy Spirit, Jesus, Prophecy, Prophet, Prophetess, Remnant, Revival, Rhema Words, Spiritual Activism, Spiritual Activists, Spiritual Fruit, Spiritual Remnant, Truth, Uncategorized on September 10, 2014 at 1:14 pm

Throughout this series if the solitary word Prophet is used it is meant to include both the male prophet and the female prophetess whose roles as mouthpieces for God are interchangeable.

It was brought to my attention more than once that perhaps in the conclusion of this series I only represented one side of why prophets and prophetess suffer from being misunderstood, disliked, and ill-treated by people, which leads to a form of loneliness for them.

What I commented on was from the perspective of the prophet’s behavior, demeanor, and/or actions. What I am being called upon to address, in order to bring balance, it the other side of the situation, the people’s behavior, demeanor, and/or actions toward the prophet that creates and affects the prophet’s behavior, demeanor, and/or actions leading to them being misunderstood. I am more than willing to acknowledge those aspects of the situation as well.

Yes, there are people who attach themselves to or seek out the prophets for their own gain and wrong motives. Yes, there are people who seek to advance themselves on the backs of the prophets or the skirt tails of the prophetess. Yes, there are people who seek to hang out with, be around, or befriend prophets in order to elevate their perceived spiritual status in the eyes of other people. Yes, people continually seek prophets out so that the prophet will seek God for them instead of seeking God for themselves, thus the people attempt to misuse or inappropriately use the gifts and callings of God; not to mention they “think” they can blame the prophet if things do not work out. What they forget is that God will deliberately confuse their steps if they attempt to seek a prophet’s counsel with ill motives. Yes, there are people who in general attempt to use the prophets.

A prophet can see into the spirits of people most of the time and therefore, he or she is often aware of the wrong motives of these types of people. The prophet may choose not address this matter in order to advance the spiritual maturity of the person partaking in such despicable behavior and do not fool yourself; to the prophet it is despicable behavior. However, on another note the prophet may actually choose to address this ungodly behavior if he or she believes confronting it at any point and time would better serve the person’s long-term spiritual development. When and how to address these types of people has to be an individual call of discernment for each prophet.

The prophets’ awareness of these types of people and the actions they take to avoid these types of situations does in fact make the prophets unpopular, disliked, talked about or ill-treated, etc. which leads at times to a form of melancholy and loneliness. A side note here – It is very dangerous to talk about, try to discredit, or ill-treat a prophet. God has made it clear in His Word He wants no harm done to His prophets. People who attack or talk about prophets often have something “bad” happen to them shortly afterwards. The prophets confronting these individuals of course adds to their “issues” with people, for lack of a better away to put the matter. Prophets in general have continual problems when certain people given to this type of ungodly behavior and often seek to avoid such people whenever possible without denying what God wishes them to do for the group or individual.

So no, it is not always the prophet – my apologizes if I put too much of the responsibility on the prophet or prophetess – the people the prophets must deal with, the carnality within the people, the religious spirits, the demonic spirits, the self-seeking self-serving attitudes, the demands, etc. are more than half of the reason prophets and the people are at odds with one another.

Again, my apologizes if I seemed unsympathetic to what the prophets go through, that was never my intent. I fully understand and can completely identify with with how difficult the calling can be for all prophets.

I wish to remind the readers that these are not simply my own beliefs this series is a collection of agreed upon beliefs by many respected servants of God, highly versed in this topic.

 

Spiritual/Political Disclaimer:

This blog will not be for the faint of heart or the easily offended. It will not be in any way politically correct. It will make every effort to share the truth in love, [Ephesians 4:11-16], to a decaying and dying society and church. I share what I share not to hurt, harm, or offend any person[s] or group; I do it because Christ’s Standard and Truth is not being represented by enough of His Followers and I do it out of love. I love enough to tell His Truth.

Ephesians 4:11-16 NKJV

11And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; 14that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, 15but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ— 16from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.

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The Pesty Moralist – The Prophet / Part 16 – Conclusion

In Biblical Principles, Chrisitan Lifestyle, Christian, Christian Living, Exhortation, Fruits of the Holy Spirit, God, God's Voice, Godliness, Godly Counsel, Holy Spirit, Jesus, Persecution, Prayer, Prophecy, Prophet, Prophetess, Remnant, Revival, Rhema Words, Spiritual Activism, Spiritual Activists, Spiritual Fruit, Spiritual Remnant, Truth, Uncategorized on September 8, 2014 at 7:00 pm

Throughout this series if the solitary word prophet is used it is meant to include both the male prophet and the female prophetess whose roles as mouthpieces for God are interchangeable.

Something I have heard a great deal about is the passion, the attitude, the boldness, the dogmatic nature, the frustration, the intensity, etc. of the prophets. There are those who seem extreme even to me and some call me extreme. Then there are those who barely speak. Then there are those who seem like they are about to become unhinged. People have experienced many different types of prophets and prophetess.

The first point I want to make is that they are not all alike. If you are use to a mild-mannered, for lack of a better term, prophet, which is rare but there are a few, you must keep in mind they are not all that way and you might encounter one that gets a bit excited. If you are use to what I would deem a brutal prophet, thank God those are not the norm either, then you may have been wounded or you might not recognize a prophet who is quite balanced in their approach.

Some people have said that the moods and attitudes of the prophets go from one extreme to another. In my view, this might be true to a small degree. However, those extremes dissipate as the prophet grows and matures thus God brings balance to the living out of their calling. One must know and never forget that God works through the person and that there are parts of the person, the person’s temperament, and the person’s personality that will show through even during prophetic moments.

The prophets do seem to have similar temperaments and thus we find similarities in their demeanor. A reminder here…The temperament is instill by God before birth and is not the same as the personality. God implants a specific temperament in a prophet before birth because God knows that one day He will call that man or woman to the calling of a prophet or prophetess.

There is a theory by Schopenhauer, again as I said previously this is not someone I would typically read but these particular sayings of his are applicable. He believed a life of powerful passion results in abnormal irritability. I would have to agree that this can be true of prophets based on the prophets and prophetess I have known, studied or researched. He also believed that for those who detach from “normal” intelligence to the service of and/or to rely upon something, or for the prophet someone greater, the One True God, for insight, deeper understanding, and greater intelligence beyond what the mind can reason, what I call a God-intelligence; these are people who find themselves often suffering from loneliness and deep melancholy. I also find this to be true of most of the prophets and prophetess I have known.

Why do the prophets have the irritability, the loneliness, and the deep melancholy? Because unless you are a prophet it is extremely hard to understand a prophet and this leaves them vulnerable to being misunderstood, disliked, and often attacked unjustly. The way their mind works, the things in their spirit, the passion that they feel for God, His Will, His Ways, His concerns, etc. is so different from most people’s, even other Believers, it is hard for them to communicate with others. There is more than one reason God said, ‘let the prophets be subject to the prophets’ actually there are several.

1 Corinthians 14:32 (NKJV) And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.

My point here and the application here is that only other prophets are meant to adequately discern the spirit of another prophet, the key being “adequately” or accurately. The second point is that only another prophet can truly understand and relate to a prophet, how they think, what they feel, what life is like for them. Therefore, since you cannot find a prophet on every street corner, or even in every congregation for that matter, the prophets can get a bit melancholy or even lonely at times because they know that people for the most part just don’t get them. Not to mention they endure great hostility directed toward them from both the world and the church.

All too often what some view as a mental abnormality or disorder is actually a higher spiritual order. I threw that one in for the actually prophets who read this, they are about the only ones who will really understand that statement. The prophets have aspects to their demeanor, temperament, and/or personality that are not the average but one cannot draw any conclusions about the individuals overall makeup due to those “aspects” that deviate from what is considered average or typical.

I have heard it said that prophets are professional agitators and are viewed as foreign agents to the world. The prophet is merely attempting in all circumstances to present God’s Will for that situation and in so doing he or she is seeking to obtain an answer from mankind for God’s questions of them. Some people have that second point backwards – – think on that for a moment.

The true prophet or prophetess never seeks the title, it was given to him or her, and once again, the true prophet seeks to make God’s Will known to all that will listen for there is no self-understanding without God-understanding.

I mentioned the following in earlier parts to this series but I wish to mention it again now. The modern-day prophets and the ancient prophets are not exactly the same and whereas they serve similar purposes their purposes overall are not the same. Many years ago God gave me a name that depicts the modern-day prophets with greater understanding and that name is Truth-bearer.

This concludes this series on the prophets and I pray you have been blessed in some way through its words. Thank you for your questions, I have tried to address them all within the context of the series or privately. If I have failed to address something about the prophets and prophetess you would like to know please send me your questions or input and I will attempt to bring greater clarity. Additionally, if you have input regarding a topic for the next series please do let me know.

I wish to remind the readers that these are not simply my own beliefs this series is a collection of agreed upon beliefs by many respected servants of God, highly versed in this topic.

 

Spiritual/Political Disclaimer:

This blog will not be for the faint of heart or the easily offended. It will not be in any way politically correct. It will make every effort to share the truth in love, [Ephesians 4:11-16], to a decaying and dying society and church. I share what I share not to hurt, harm, or offend any person[s] or group; I do it because Christ’s Standard and Truth is not being represented by enough of His Followers and I do it out of love. I love enough to tell His Truth.

Ephesians 4:11-16 NKJV

11And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; 14that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, 15but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ— 16from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.

The Pesty Moralist – The Prophet / Part 15

In Bible, Biblical Principles, Chrisitan Lifestyle, Christian, Christian Living, Christianity, God, God's Voice, Godliness, Godly Counsel, Holy Spirit, Jesus, Love, Persecution, Prophecy, Prophet, Prophetess, Remnant, Revival, Rhema Words, Spiritual Activism, Spiritual Activists, Spiritual Fruit, Spiritual Remnant, Truth, Uncategorized on September 1, 2014 at 8:15 am

Throughout this series if the solitary word prophet is used it is meant to include both the male prophet and the female prophetess whose roles as mouthpieces for God are interchangeable.

The most exceptional mark of the prophet’s manner is their awareness of being one with God in a very deep intimate fellowship, not a fusion – as God is God and man is man. God in all His Godhead approaches the prophet in a manner they can relate to, God as God and the prophet as the person the prophet is. In this way, the Divine can communicate with the created, with His called, with His mouthpiece in a way the prophet can understand. The prophet’s personal identity does not vanish instead the prophet gains power under the overwhelming impact of the communication from God, even when the message is disturbing to the prophet. The prophet is often even responsive to God during these times. The prophet will react to the Word he or she receives.

When God does approach the prophet, there is an awareness of a personal mission to a particular person or group of people.

Whereas prophecy is in a manner a vocation, one that exhibits charisma and comes through election, it presupposes neither training nor the gradual development of a talent. It comes entirely by an act of God’s grace. Prophecy and the job of the prophets is to communicate the insight of God inspired within them. The purpose of God’s communion with the prophet is to bring about righteousness, justice, and piety within people, the Body of Christ, and society. The prophet receives the Word and proclaims the Word.

You can spot a mystical act as not being true prophesy. A mystical act is when “something” happens and a prophetic act is when something is said. Prophecy is a confrontation. The prophet definitely knows what his or her Word implies but they do not elaborate with their views. Their primary concern is the message and not the form of delivery.

A difference between the prophet and ordinary people is the possession of a heightened and unified awareness of certain aspect of life.

I wish to remind the readers that these are not simply my own beliefs this series is a collection of agreed upon beliefs by many respected servants of God, highly versed in this topic.

 

Spiritual/Political Disclaimer:

This blog will not be for the faint of heart or the easily offended. It will not be in any way politically correct. It will make every effort to share the truth in love, [Ephesians 4:11-16], to a decaying and dying society and church. I share what I share not to hurt, harm, or offend any person[s] or group; I do it because Christ’s Standard and Truth is not being represented by enough of His Followers and I do it out of love. I love enough to tell His Truth.

Ephesians 4:11-16 NKJV

11And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; 14that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, 15but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ— 16from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.